From: fredline@ix.netcom.com Subject: IBM Thinkpad Support Encourages Pizza and Beer Date: Monday, December 22 1997 ========= [If you've ever found yourself in a situation like this and thought you were losing your grip on reality, take cheer, it's reality's fault, not yours... -psl] (paraphrased from a tech support call to IBM) *ring* *ring* IBM: Hello, IBM thinkpad support. How may I help you? me: My new 560X is crashing in win95 when I suspend. IBM: Yes sir. There's a known problem with suspend and PCMCIA cards... PCMCIA network and modem cards don't support suspend mode properly. They're not power-aware. me: ... *ponder* ... *think* ... You mean to say my Xircom network card is the problem? Wait. The Xircom card suspends fine on my Toshiba notebook. How can the problem be PCMCIA cards not being power-aware? IBM: Yes sir. There is a workaround... Stop any PCMCIA cards you have prior to invoking suspend. me: Okay. I can live with that for the short term. Has this been reported to IBM engineering as a bug and do you have some idea of an ETA? IBM: I'm sorry sir. This is not a bug. The problem is with the PCMCIA cards. me: ??!! Fine. Do you have a hardware compatibility list of PCMCIA network cards which do work? I'll go buy one of those. IBM: Yes sir. Our IBM network and modem cards are supported and known to work. me: Great! So the IBM cards will suspend properly? IBM: I didn't say that sir. The IBM cards are supported and known to work. me: Yes... So the IBM cards will suspend and resume reliably? IBM: I didn't say that sir. The IBM cards are our supported cards for the 560X and known to work. You'll just need to stop the card services before suspending. me: So are there any PCMCIA cards which doesn't require being stopped in order for the 560X to suspend correctly? IBM: No sir. me: And this is not considered a bug in the 560X? IBM: Yes sir. The problem is that the PCMCIA card doesn't support suspend correctly. me: Even your own PCMCIA cards? IBM: I didn't say that sir. me: I can use both the IBM and Xircom cards in my Toshiba w/o suspend/resume problems... and this is still not a bug with the 560X design? IBM: Sir, the supported IBM cards are known to work on the 560X. me: But not realiably? IBM: I didn't say that, sir. I relented at this point and let the poor support tech go. obviously he was under direct orders not to acknowledge a design flaw in the 560X PCMCIA subsystem by management. This was a perversely fascinating call and I think I'll go have a pizza and a beer now.